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No, You're Not a Fucking Pro!
 I think I can sum up this entire article in two words

STOP IT!

Unfortunately, that's not going to do the trick, and I feel that maybe I should explain myself.

I've said this before, but obviously I need to reiterate it... again... and LOUDLY!

1. If you're not 18, you're not allowed on the site. All your shit will be deleted!
2. If you're not working in a studio and have never worked in one, you're not a body mod pro... you're unemployed.

With that, I think I've just made a bunch of new enemies =)  Oh well... someone's got to do it.

Are there exceptions? No.

"But I know what I'm doing" - No, you don't.

Now, let me please show you WHY I'm reacting so strongly to this:



Sadly, this kind of this is far too common. So everyone out there that want's to yell at me, "I know what I'm doing", you're just being a stubborn blockhead.

This particular case has to do with an infection that is easily transmittable by piercers and tattoo artists that don't have the proper training on infectious deceases and blood born pathogens. This one is MRSA (Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus). It's a Staph infection that eats away at your flesh and is resistant to most of the common antibiotics out there. 

How is MRSA Spread? (from WebMD.com)

"MRSA is spread by contact. So you could get MRSA by touching another person who has it on the skin. Or you could get it by touching objects that have the bacteria on them.

Garden-variety staph are common bacteria that can live on our bodies. Plenty of healthy people carry staph without being infected by it. In fact, 25-30% of us have staph bacteria in our noses.

But staph can be a problem if it manages to get into the body, often through a cut. Once there, it can cause an infection. Staph is one of the most common causes of skin infections in the U.S. Usually, these are minor and don't need special treatment. Less often, staph can cause serious problems like infected wounds or pneumonia."

A while back, a famous UFC / MMA fighter, Kevin Randleman, contracted MRSA and is now fighting two holes in his chest rather than other fighters.



Along with this, I have been told about a certain someone that's been posting images of their "work". For obvious reasons, all their "work" and their account has been deleted (they were a 17 year old "professional"). Everyone once in a while I get some kids on here that yell and scream about how awesome they are and how they know everything, and blah blah blah. Oh, and they've "been piercing since they were 14, and have an apprentice" LOL... please.

I normally just delete their stuff and then send them a message saying to come back when they're 18 and after they work in a shop with some proper training. This seems to be too passive and someone needs to be the bad guy.

Enter, me... aka "the bad guy"

I'm about to ridicule and destroy this person's work (which is very similar to almost all kids under 18 that think they're pros) with hopes that it discourages others from doing this same sort of work out of sheer embarrassment. To anyone under 18 that wants to be a piercer / tattoo artist: AWESOME! I fully support your goals, and want you to succeed! But do it right! Learn from a current professional in a shop! Learn the right way, so that you do it the right way! There's no excuse for almost killing your friend because you want to save $20.


Exhibit A: What I like to call..."Jesus Christ! People think this is OK?!"



What jumped out to me at first was the overall brutality done to this girl. Then are the forceps and tools on A BED! Then the realization that both of these people (the person doing the mutilation, and the person being mutilated) both think this is OK and "cool"... IT'S NOT COOL! You're fucking each other up! Stop it!


Exhibit B: The close-up



Again, first I noticed the fucked piercings, then the horrible environment this was done in (you can see the tools on the bed again), and then the jewelry. Looks like Taiwanese crap for $0.05 a ring... oh man... this is gunna suck for her.

You know how we (1st world country citizens) find it humorous and tend to mock third world medical procedures and environments? Yeah... it's like that. I equate this to bathing and washing your clothes in the town river where all the animals also bathe and all waste is dumped... yep. You're those people.


Exhibit C: Case and point that you're an idiot.



This tells everyone, loud and clear, that you have no idea what you're doing. Immediate points... No gloves, in a bedroom, procedurally wrong. And I already know what the remark, "...but I used a cork." HAHAHAA! STOP IT!


Exhibit D: I don't like my hands...



How well do you know anatomy? Most likely, you don't. You're just fucking around and think it'd be neat-o. How neat-o do you think it'd be to puncture some veins, nerve clusters, or tendons that control motor function of your hands? SWEET! Why do you think people trying to kill themselves slit their wrists? Because you can bleed to death... yay death! Stop it! Learn what you're doing and about the body before you fuck someone up!

This is the end of my rant. I'm not sorry, and if this pisses you off, you're probably the person I'm talking to.

I would really appreciate anyone out there that is a real body piercer / tattoo artist / body modification artist to comment on this and publicly back me up so I don't look like the old crazy guy... 

"Get off my lawn!"

.: Adam
.: Adam
Since 2003, Adam Callen has been the editor and publisher of BodyMod.org, not the largest or oldest full-spectrum body modification publication on the planet, but pretty damn awesome =). Copyright © 2019 Adam Callen. Permission is granted to reprint this article in its entirety as long as credit is retained and usage is non-commercial. Requests to publish edited or shortened versions must be confirmed in writing. For bibliographical purposes this article was first published March 2, 2010 in New York City, US.

I hope someone sees the humor in this =)
Comments
RIGHT THE FUCK ON MAN....

AMEN BROTHA, PREACH IT!
Posted on March 2, 2010 (3:53pm)
Fucking disgusting pictures.
I hope people will learn something from this.
Posted on March 2, 2010 (4:01pm)
i';m all for starting a ";hammer van for noobs.";
Posted on March 2, 2010 (4:03pm)
@linda... they wont, cause people are fucking idiots and need a clue-tip they';ll never accept...
Posted on March 2, 2010 (4:05pm)
Fucking tell';em Adam!
Posted on March 2, 2010 (4:14pm)
I agree totally. An untrained kid is not a professional.
Posted on March 2, 2010 (4:36pm)
oh god....i feel sick and like i need to go to a piercer that knows what the fuck they are doing RIGHT THE FUCK NOW! D; srsly folks...shit is nasty.
Posted on March 2, 2010 (4:52pm)
I totally agree with you Adam, for me, just a "costumer" paying is well worth it for the peace of mind that my piercer knows what he is doing! But, I have pierced myself, of course after some guidance and advise form my piercer, bought sterile needles, gloves, and proper hygiene was used...I would never dare doing someone else, way too many variables that I am certain only years of practice prepare you for.
Posted on March 2, 2010 (5:06pm)
Fuck I have friends telling me to do piercings for me even for free!
NO I want it done professionally! Thats how much I LOVE mods! I am ready to pay for the work being done on me!!!
Posted on March 2, 2010 (5:08pm)
I;m gonna print this out for references!!!
Posted on March 2, 2010 (5:11pm)
Preach on my brotha!! <3
Posted on March 2, 2010 (5:17pm)
I am going to give this to my friends who think this shit is all fun and games. Thanks Adam!
Posted on March 2, 2010 (5:24pm)
HNNNNNNNNNNNNNGH. That was the most "do not want" in one article that I've ever seen.
Posted on March 2, 2010 (5:35pm)
I know what I'm doing! ;)
Posted on March 2, 2010 (5:36pm)
Amen! Thank you for posting this. Hopefully some kids that join the site will read it!
Posted on March 2, 2010 (5:48pm)
Right on the spot!!
Posted on March 2, 2010 (6:04pm)
Holy... holy crap. I've not been on this website for a whole lotta months... but good fucking lord.

The sad thing is, those "kiddies" who believe they're better than everyone else will look at this and go "well... I do that and I don't see ANYTHING wrong with it"...


Only sensible people will realise that this shit is wrong, the stupid ones are already doing it, and they won't learn from this until, unfortunately, something bad happens to them. But, hey that's what they call natural selection right?
Posted on March 2, 2010 (6:40pm)
Thats a great article! I hope that this reaches some kids out there who are piercing all of their friends... and I hope it scares them enough to stop. *;shudder*;
Posted on March 2, 2010 (7:52pm)
Jeeezzz seeing this sort of thing pisses me off big time. Three years ago I went to Blackpool (a seaside place for those who don';t know), and on the seafront, you could get ANY part of your body pierced for £5. And all done with a gun, AND by kids on school holidays.
There were loadsa these places,but I just guess that they think that you wouldn';t travel back to a holiday place to complain.
I didn';t get anything done, but complained to the council, who told me it was part of their Tourist Industry!!!
Posted on March 2, 2010 (8:04pm)
I';ve got a story from my piercer. He pierced a girl naval and went over all the aftercare. Like a lot of people she didn';t listen to a word he said. So she asked her friend, ";What should I use to clean this?"; Her friend told her Preparation H. So he took a used bottle of said ass cream from her parents medicine cabinet and used it to ";clean"; her naval. She got a staph infection and had to have surgery. She now has a scar from her naval to her sternum. The doctor didn';t do her any favors. He over-lapped the tissue and sewed it doing figure 8s. So on top of a huge scar it sticks up about 1/4";.
Posted on March 2, 2010 (8:05pm)
Posted on March 2, 2010 (8:22pm)
Sorry, hit the button by accident before,hence the double post lol...Mea Culpa. :)

I contracted MRSA after my c-section when I had my son. Not only is the infection aggressive but you';re blackballed permanently as a MRSA carrier-private rooms in the hospital, docs,nurses, and visitors in gowns/masks, total isolation...long after you';ve beat the infection as it becomes a part of your natural flora. Sounds funny but I can assure you it';s annoying. I really hope this hits home Adam, and kudos on a great delivery! :)
Posted on March 2, 2010 (8:31pm)
I can';t tell you how reassuring it is to find out that, in this wild world of body mods, that there are true dedicated professionals who become offended by pretenders and slop artists.

Usually people think that piercers and tattoo artists are a bunch of folks who live life hanging on the edge and not caring about the aftermath of them plying their trade.

This article and your response let us all see that professionals don';t all wear suits, uniforms or lab coats. Thanks for your comments and making so many aware of their risks.
Posted on March 2, 2010 (8:42pm)
MRSA is most commonly caused by misuse of antibiotics. The percentage of people with Staph currently living inside of there noses is much higher than 25%-30% as you stated. You are correct that it is possible to transmit MRSA by direct contact, but it is most commonly the result of being over-prescribed or not following the prescription of antibiotics. Most staph infections in general are not caused by a foreign matter entering the skin. It is caused by a weakened immune not properly reacting to the staph that is living under your skin right now.

If you would like to prevent and educate on MRSA, please learn facts and spread them. The truth works much better than slander.

If you want to promote legitimate body art businesses;; again, I think that the truth works best.
Posted on March 2, 2010 (8:46pm)
big help and lesson for us all.
Posted on March 2, 2010 (9:10pm)
Adam did make a mistake with this post, he mixed two totally different issues. One the MRSA, second the ";wannabe pros";.
For the MRSA, the kid did not get it because he pierced himself, he could have just as well popped a zit that day, result would have been the same, or he could have got into a pro studio and still get it. His condition was ";ripe"; that likely any wound would react and get infected.
About sloppy shitty careless work, not two ways to go about, only and ever use trained professional, if not you kind of deserve what you get!!

The the pros answering this with ";yeah visit a pro, we know what we do and we stand by it"; is give 10 credits, it is true and there is no way around it, for those who are on the ";You get MRSA if you pierce yourself"; wagon, give me the credits back :-)
In any way, this is an educative post, but should have been split because not both issues, MRSA and shit work, are linked to pro or no pro piercers.
Posted on March 2, 2010 (9:14pm)
ahah yeah, you definately hit the nail on the head, and yes I know i spelled definately wrong stfu
Posted on March 2, 2010 (10:06pm)
Well, fucking, done. The pictures made me cringe but unfortunately, the idiots still out there are going to continue to do what they do :(
Posted on March 2, 2010 (10:08pm)
You tell them Adam! seriously ewwww!!!!
Posted on March 2, 2010 (10:09pm)
jesus. thank you for this. people are fucking retarded...
Posted on March 2, 2010 (10:33pm)
And to think, I was just bitching about this very same thing about a 2 weeks to a month ago on the forums and a lot of people (even at least one pro) were like, ";I don';t see anything wrong with it."; I am fucking glad somebody else finally said something. Right on brother.
Posted on March 2, 2010 (10:40pm)
i hit the back button and lost my comment...dammit.

ok... short version this time.

felonious drunk:

The 20-30% fact came from WebMD.com (citation noted in article). I didn't make it up. It's also been checked against Mayo Health Clinic:

"Although 30 percent of the population may be colonized with ordinary staph at any given time, just a small percentage of those people are colonized with MRSA. Healthy people can be colonized with MRSA and have no ill effects. However, they can pass the germ to others by sharing items such as towels, clothing and athletic equipment."

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/mrsa/ID00049

The cause of MRSA is a combination of both a lowered immune system (the kid in the article had the flu when he pierced himself) and the antibiotic-resistant strain of Staph entering the body.

There are people that are known as carriers that have MRSA bacteria already but are uninfected, but the cause of a breakout is not necessarily from it already being there. A majority of the time it's caused by contracting it from someone / something else. This originally started as an outbreak in hospitals, being transmitted like crazy. Then in the early 90's a different strain got out in the public.

Another area I crosschecked with was Google Health:

"The bacteria can cause infection when they enter the body through a cut, sore, catheter, or breathing tube. The infection can be minor and local (for example, a pimple), or more serious (involving the heart, lung, blood, or bone)."

https://health.google.com/health/ref/MRSA

Lastly, slander is defamation through oral communication. Libel on the other hand is defamation by written words that maliciously or damagingly misrepresents. I think that's what you were shooting for. Either way, I provided facts and backed up my statements with my sources. I don't have anything against MRSA... it's a nice staphylococcus. Maybe even my favorite. I just don't like the people spreading it to others unknowingly because they think they know everything when they obviously don't. Please refer to Exhibit A... all the tools on a bed. A bed! You know how much microscopic crap is on those things?! (hehe... literally too if you think about it... oh c'mon... you know you fart in bed ;)

I'm more than willing to read any that you would like to provide us that counter these. II'm all about learning more.

"If you want to promote legitimate body art businesses again, I think that the truth works best."

Couldn't agree with you more!


JClaude: The link was made in the very beginning with the kid being hospitalized because of a MRSA infection he received from piercing himself instead of going to a shop. Piercing yourself, and / or friends in a unsterile environment is just asking for something to go wrong.

Yes, the kid could have contracted MRSA from popping a zit but he didn't. He got it because he thought it was OK to shove a needle from a first aid kit through his lip. Also, what jewelry did he use? If he' piercing himself with found needles while he has the flu, something tells me it was something closer to a safety pin, than stainless steel that's been through an autoclave.

Now, could you get MRSA from a very educated piercer / tattoo artist? Yes... but very unlikely as they are trained and actively practice methods to prevent it as much as possible. I've seen some piercing rooms that would put a hospital ER to shame and I've seen tattoos get infected from artists at Last Rites. There's always risk involved. It's about minimizing it and not doing something stupid to increase it when not necessary.

Thanks for the comments! And I really appreciate the alternative views!

.: Adam
Posted on March 2, 2010 (11:20pm)
Thanks Felonious.
Posted on March 2, 2010 (11:21pm)
AGREED!!!
Posted on March 3, 2010 (12:07am)
In that kid's case, I kind doubt the infection came from the needle, most likely he had contacted a source of infection and the piercing was just the entry point for the virus that was likely on his hands, the hospital could not 100% confirm the virus came from the needle which is a bit unlikely given the virus does not survive that long...
I agree about some pro place's cleanliness, like the place I get tattooed back in Portugal, he is almost obsessive with hygiene and such, he has a room just for piercings, even the lighting is controlled to help relax :-)

Adam, I should have finished my post with something long the lines of, you can get an infection anywhere you are go, but, if you go to a professional your chances are greatly diminished and chances things will go right are on your side!
Posted on March 3, 2010 (12:07am)
Many of us have been speaking out about this issue lately, good to see some supportive opinions
Posted on March 3, 2010 (12:28am)
adam you rock, this is important, god so important.i worked in a nursing facility for a while and let me tell you the stuff i learned about diseases is incredible, and scary at the same time.look at that kid,he has to have heart surgery.mrsa is like one of worst things on this planet.its extremely deadly,and can spread quicker than you can say spread.it can even transfer on cloths,blood, spit, coughing,or flem, fecal matter,urine,etc,,,and its basiclly ammuned to antibotics.in most common cases mrsa its caused by over taking to many antibiotics.but theres diferent kinds of mrsa that ive worked around.in the kids case, as he was sick he probably got it from him being sick and taking antibiotics.but some of the worst mrsa ive worked around was extremely contagious, and the patients were in full scale isolation.
i remember a lady in the laundry room scratched her finger with a tooth pick that was in the biohazard bin of a mrsa patient's cloths.she almost lost her finger from the infection.it mustve been crazy for her but she reported the incident immidiatly and took care of it right away.
good info adam,nice.

rock on adam.
Posted on March 3, 2010 (12:41am)
AGREED.
THIS SHIT IS SCARY AND REAL.

The only mod i have that wasn't professionally done was a flesh peel done by a friend because I trust her. She used sterile gloves, sterile medical scalpels, and I was still worried about infection. If I could do it again, I'd proly not cuz of this post.
Posted on March 3, 2010 (12:55am)
You know, the MRSA pictures didn't really bother me. I show stuff like that to people wanting to get inks and needles all the time. But that wrist piercing made me gag. That was fucking retarded.
Posted on March 3, 2010 (1:24am)
This is a fucking good statement !
Stop this shit !
Posted on March 3, 2010 (1:27am)
Fuck man, I wish people would realize how harmful home tattoos & piercings can be... Morons. You get what you pay for.
Posted on March 3, 2010 (3:15am)
Those piercing photos are so gross.
Posted on March 3, 2010 (3:38am)
I've printed out this article and am planning on having my nephew post this around his high school...this stuff needs to get out to those who need it most

Thank you for posting and if this helps prevent one unsafe act then it has done its job...hopefully it will stop more then one though
Posted on March 3, 2010 (3:58am)
WOW... didnt know you could get mrsa from that. good to know... and those guys are fucking idiots... but i'll admit to idiodically piercing myself... and others without licensing piercing me... bad move i know... but i wasnt stupid enough to go all kinds of unsterile and whatnot... that whole... crooked belly piercing thing... ew.. trash
Posted on March 3, 2010 (4:05am)
OH FUCKING HELL,

just fuck

i have no words, thanks for this.
IT was REALLY needed .
Posted on March 3, 2010 (5:59am)
I need to thank you for this post. I am a drug treatment counselor in a residential treatment program for teenage girls. One of the perpetual battles we have in our program is our girls deciding that they need to pierce themselves while with us. Needless to say we have rules against this, but they often don't get why we take it so seriously. And, since many of us staff are visibly pierced and tattooed, the girls think we are just being hypocrites.

You just helped out a bunch of kids - I'm going to use this site to SHOW the girls why we have these rules. Maybe they'll believe it when it comes from a body mod site. Or, at the very least, the pics will freak them out lol.

Thanks again!
Posted on March 3, 2010 (6:31am)
well its definitely disgusting and stupid behaviour of the people who do this. but ive seen some pretty foul examples of work done at local studios by people who've supposedly worked there for years. and some of the most detailed and impressive tattoo work i've seen is by a sixteen year old girl apprenticed by her dad. so saying all kids cant call themselves professionals is a pretty broad term. but +1 to most of what was said
Posted on March 3, 2010 (9:50am)
Notice that it uses the word "colonized" and then talks about carriers. They are two different things. The only person besides myself that isn't seeing through your misrepresentation is JCaude. I thought littlebeans was going to focus on a great point that she made; The majority of MRSA that is contracted in the United States happens inside of hospitals. The conditions that most MRSA transmission happen in are cleaner than tattoo shops. By cleaner, I mean 8 year or longer medical trained professionals using sterile gloves and face masks. You are stating that MRSA happens when someone practices art without a license, but I would be more concerned about people practicing medicine without a license.

See what happens when you take the truth and bend it a little?
Posted on March 3, 2010 (10:47am)
I must also point out that the MRSA in one of your pictures was not the result of body art.
Posted on March 3, 2010 (10:57am)
I totally agree, even tho I still have to wait a few months (about 3 of them) before I can actually sign in again(this was discussed about a year ago). But now I want to close my account so I can make another when I have the legal papers in my pockets to do so. I've been battling for months against that delete account bug to get my account removed from the database, but nothing seems to work. I even tryed to email you but I think the email never landed where it was supposed to. Now I'm trying to get your attention here: I want my accoubnt removed so I don't get you in complicated procedures just because I don't have the right papers in my pockets. I don't want to. I tryed to delete my account at least 20 times. It didn't work. Either fix the bug or delete me, or both, but.. yeah.

Keep up the good work.. And I am to, I'm tired of butchers and children that think they're awesome. My hand would be pretty sore if I would start slapping them all. Even when I propose the kids safer alternates, like actual piercing needles instead of safety pins, they argue and say they know what they're doing. Help? Where is the world going? If it was all for me, they'd all die from tetanus... Muh.
Posted on March 3, 2010 (11:17am)
So is this about MRSA, kids that stick safety pins in their lips, or lastly talented artists that practice art without a license?
Posted on March 3, 2010 (1:59pm)
@Felonious
Though we might agree about sources and circumstances of contamination, I strongly disagree that Adam, lied, distorted the truth or any shit like, he would gain nothing with that and I believe his warning is a genuine attempt to help people and prevent stuff like that from happening.
Posted on March 3, 2010 (2:17pm)
I agree, I see stupid shit like this every day. The only thing I would add is that it's not always kids doing shit like this. Sure, they are the majority of dumbfucks, but I've seen plenty of adults posting fucked up pictures on here of filthy environments, poor placement, wrong jewelry, no gloves, etc. The adults who post as a "pro" when they are obviously not need to be addressed too.
Posted on March 3, 2010 (2:17pm)
@JClaude:

You're right.
As a former KGB text message question answering operator, I've quoted WebMD many times. I have read the article that Adam is referring to, and I trust their statistics.

I don't like how deceptive his journal entry is. This is a website that is meant to educated adults on body modification. Whether Adam is knowingly, or unknowingly playing on the fears of infectious diseases does not nullify the fact that he is misinforming his users.

I think that a good web page to quote from would be the APTPI. They probably agree with this bullshit scare tactic.

Posted on March 3, 2010 (2:45pm)
@felonious drunk: where is the misinformation?

Please provide your sources that prove anything I've posted wrong and I will gladly retract them.

Do most MRSA cases come from hospitals? Absolutely. Is there a completely different strain not from hospitals? Yep.

Check out this: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/mrsa/DS00735

"Most MRSA infections occur in hospitals or other health care settings, such as nursing homes and dialysis centers. It's known as health care-associated MRSA, or HA-MRSA. Older adults and people with weakened immune systems are at most risk of HA-MRSA. More recently, another type of MRSA has occurred among otherwise healthy people in the wider community. This form, community-associated MRSA, or CA-MRSA, is responsible for serious skin and soft tissue infections and for a serious form of pneumonia."

All of the MRSA photos are not from body art. They are to show what MRSA can do (especially left untreated).

Is this a scare tactic? Yep. Like pictures of tar filled lungs next to a cigarette stand. The difference is that everyone know smoking will fuck you up, they just don't care. Most kids piercing themselves don't know what could actually happen to them. Hence, this article. Hopefully, it'll get them to research it on their own and become more informed.

But again, please tell me how I'm misinforming the readers. If you can show me one reference that proves you can't get MRSA from a unprofessional piercer, please post it.

@felonious drunk - thanks for the debate! I love this stuff =)

Keep the comments coming everyone, and please share this to as many people as possible. (So I can fulfill my plan in world domination via MRSA scare tactics ;)

.: Adam
Posted on March 3, 2010 (4:52pm)
well i will not lie i am 19 and i do all my own piercings..(well most of them anyway, my tongue was proffesionally done....im not and idiotlol)but i DONOT claim to be a professional nor do I claim to know enough to be one. I know enough to piercing my own body. and i follow all the procedures a professional would use. i have pierced my friends before many times but the were all well aware of my capabilities and aware that im not a pro.

i want to be a piercer one day im looking for an aprientice ship near me.

but one thing i hate is these little kids i see piercing themselves with random shit and just pretty much guessing at what they are doing. or when i was in high school and i would see kids piercing eachother in class with a damn safety pin! wtf! this one girl fainted in the middle of fucking class from some bitch trying to pierce her tragus.

if your gonna do something...atleast do your research and do it right.
Posted on March 3, 2010 (5:07pm)
@ Adam

There is no certification or piece of paper that protects against MRSA. I tattoo. I have been tattooing for 16 years. I do not work in a shop. I tattooed for 9 years before it was legalized in my state. I am not certified with the APP. I understand cross contamination prevention measures. Are you insinuating that infect people or pose a large threat in regards of MRSA? Are you telling me that I should "just stop?" If so, my reply is fuck you. I think that the users of your website would enjoy my work if I posted anything more than childish jokes etched into my leg.
Posted on March 3, 2010 (6:07pm)
@Felonious, your last post seems to insinuate what you real problem is after all, and it is not with whatever Adam said about MRSA, but it seems like you feel your status as a "pro(?)" was threatened by what Adam said might, or not, make someone a bonafide "pro" .
Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong...but I dont think I am!
Posted on March 3, 2010 (7:19pm)
From the bottom of my heart I thank you for this article Adam. Can I please use this article to post on some Swedish forums?
Posted on March 3, 2010 (7:49pm)
Excellent post! And you don't look like the old crazy guy either!
Posted on March 3, 2010 (8:12pm)
I am so glad this was written.I really cannot fathom how people will be so careless with their own body, or their friend's bodies.
Posted on March 3, 2010 (10:59pm)
Thank you! It's about (fuckin') time! I'm not a pro., I'll never be a pro, but darn it! I've done my homework, and I have several pro's that are a phone call or (20 minute) drive away
Posted on March 3, 2010 (11:37pm)
people kill me with all of this i've been piercing for 3yrs now and i've seen some horrible things and it makes me sick how cheap people are and how they just don't care about what they do to themselves
Posted on March 3, 2010 (11:52pm)
I had a nightmare about those pictures last night.
Posted on March 4, 2010 (12:09am)
this is a great article
Posted on March 4, 2010 (4:41am)
and it is also going to give me nightmares...
Posted on March 4, 2010 (4:42am)
@felonious drunk

There is no certification to be a professional piercer or tattoo artist, this whole article is about how you need to be educated on what you're doing and know the risks. You obviously are and do, so I don't see why you're up in a twist? Unless it's your feeling that people should be able to just do whatever they want to whomever completely unknowing of the consequences of their actions, in which case, we do differ on opinion.
Posted on March 4, 2010 (3:17pm)
@Chai - and everyone else

Feel free to redistribute / translate this and post it everywhere. I don't mind at all. It's about getting the word out. Also, feel free to keep me as the author so that I'm the bad guy and not you =)

Cheers!

.: Adam
Posted on March 4, 2010 (3:18pm)
its about time this was said,i totally agree with you adam. i cringed looking at all those photos i cant belive how stupid some people can be its getting to the point of ridiculousness. i still get my mates turning round at home demanding i pierce them right then and there and i tell them no or they demand a needle i still tell them no if they want it they have to come to the shop cos the shop is STERILE! unlike my home. cant belive those tools where just lying there on the bed and let alone that wrist piercing dear god no what the fuck people get a clue tip!
Posted on March 4, 2010 (5:43pm)
Quoting Adam: "...Please refer to Exhibit A... all the tools on a bed. A bed! You know how much microscopic crap is on those things?!"

To all piercers that have not fucked a broad on top of their piercing table: Say "Aye"
Posted on March 4, 2010 (8:36pm)
@Felonious, how often is a piercer's table/chair cleaned (disinfected) vs a regular bed?? a teenager bed at that!!
Your last comment was just idiotic and with no intent other but to be disruptive to a post destined to inform and educate, of which your participation has done neither.
Posted on March 4, 2010 (8:53pm)
It's true, the tables are cleaned often. But who has a table that has not been fucked on?
Posted on March 4, 2010 (9:20pm)
I Support this post.
Posted on March 4, 2010 (9:29pm)
@ JClaude: You are absolutely right that piercing tables can be wiped clean much better than a mattress can, but do you feel comfortable with spending between $50 & $100 to sit in a pupple of someone else's highlight of the day; even if you are assured that it was wiped to the best of their capability?


I think that the pictures above might show the potential consequences of refusing to sit on another person's love juice.
Posted on March 4, 2010 (9:55pm)
FUCK those pics make me sick..but at least they are educating people on how things can get messed up...badly
Posted on March 4, 2010 (10:17pm)
@Felonious,
1- I feel very comfortable paying someone that is a real pro, in a real shop with a real license, and I almost always tip my "man" a 100% , but you can't know what that is right?

2- You could not know what goes on a real studio after hours, now would you?

3- You are now lacking valid arguments, and just made this one up about "love juice" shit to justify your rant, you asked for those who had never fucked on their tables to say "aye", now I dare you to name anyone that has ever been into a licensed shop and ever seen any signs that someone had had sex on the table/chair!! And, if my piercer was to have sex on the chair he pierces me, I would have not a bit of a problem as I know he would make sure to clean up after himself and provide me with the cleanest environment possible, but since only real piercers, in real shops with real licenses have such a responsible behavior, I must assume you can't understand that right and that you assume all piercers are pigs like the guy in these photos or any other wannabees???

I think you should at this point consider to let go, you are not a one man army, you have shown us you don't have it in you and, feel very lucky, very lucky that apparently Adam is very patient, I would have kicked your ass off this site when you first made insinuation and wrongfully accused Adam for the content and purpose of this message.
Be graceful and save yourself further ridicule.
Posted on March 4, 2010 (11:27pm)
these are all very good examples of why i hate people.... fucking idiots..
Posted on March 5, 2010 (10:48am)
you're so damn right man...
Posted on March 5, 2010 (11:11am)
just a note. I'm never going to ban someone just because they differ in opinion from me. I love a god debate and will gladly entertain anyone's thoughts =)

I'm smart enough to know that I'm not always right and am willing to learn from my mistakes. All I ask is that people provide evidence when they want to convince me otherwise.

Cheers all!

.: Adam
Posted on March 5, 2010 (5:48pm)
* good debate

(although I do love a god debate as well ;)
Posted on March 5, 2010 (5:49pm)
Man, those 'surface piercings' made me cringe so badly. It looks like they clamped the skin really tightly.

And EW, did they use like, permanent marker on that girl's stomach? D:
Posted on March 5, 2010 (6:15pm)
There is a really big difference between disagreement and slander.
Here, it was not really disagreement that happened.
Posted on March 5, 2010 (7:05pm)
Agreed Adam. I know many kids who were piercing themselves and friends because their parents wouldnt let them get pierced. Usually they had no problems so kept doing it until one of the kids got sick. I absolutely dont agree with underage self piercers even if they do most of the right things. Just fucking wait until you turn 18, we all have to. You can be cool later.
Posted on March 5, 2010 (11:35pm)
Dude, I fucking love you right now. This needed to be said so badly.
Posted on March 6, 2010 (10:47am)
Weldone adam they have to be told.
Posted on March 7, 2010 (2:48am)
Ganking this.

I, too, work with young people. I have spent the past 20 years in and around the tattoo/piercing industry, so when I see obviously fucked-up "work" on these kids, I do my best to educate them on the dangers of... oh, say... shoving safety pins through their lips. Now I have visual aids to back me up.

Cheers!
Posted on March 7, 2010 (1:09pm)
I agree with all of this, except for the blatant stereotyping of anyone under 18, because obviously once you hit 18 you're not an idiot anymore. And since when has bmod not allowed minors on here? I think they need a community with knowledgeable and understand people where they can get information, and yet once again, they're being kept out where they'll just keep doing the same, stupid shit.
Posted on March 7, 2010 (7:47pm)
And furthermore, not all self piercers are bad at what they do. Not all underaged self piercers are "bad". Look at eatenplacenta (mod on here), from what I remember of her she has done almost all of her own piercings and was piercing herself while under 18. If you know who I'm talking about, you know just how serious and professional she is. Just because someone is under 18 doesn't mean that their body is not their body and they do not have the choice to do with it as they wish. I'm definitely not trying to support the person shown in this post, but some of us (yes, us, I have pierced myself and pierced myself before I was an "adult", in the most sanitary way I found possible, i.e. with gloves, not in a bedroom, proper individually packaged one time use gas sterilized needles, etc.) actually aren't idiots or just doing it "because it's cool". I'm very dissapointed in the judgmental attitude that bmod.org seems to have taken on. All of this hostility towards self piercers/minors is NOT going to stop them, it's just going to make the problem worse. If we can be understanding and KINDLY explain to them the correct procedures, why what they're doing is not safe, etc., then it might make a difference. But ripping them apart like this is just going to make them more angry, especially towards this community, and they will continue what you're doing. Thanks for forcing this self righteous image on ALL of us.
Posted on March 7, 2010 (7:52pm)
I completely agree. And I'm one who has pierced myself, idk, 50 times or so, but you are right. Recently I got a staph infection, not as bad as the one mentioned, but bad enough that I'm on my 2nd antiobiotic. It was not from a self done piercing per-say, well it sorta was, the infection came from something else, but non-the-less I completely agree. Remember though even if a piercing is done properly, it's still up to the individual to properly care for it but that is another topic entirely.
Posted on March 7, 2010 (11:50pm)
@Jclaude
I think it's pretty stupid of you to think that Felonious should be banned just for having his own opinion, or saying things you don't like. People don't always agree, people don't always get along. Shouldn't you have learned that in kindergarten?

As for everything else I have nothing to say because I am not educated in MRSA.

But I do hate piercings that are obviously not OK. I would consider putting this up in my sisters school purely as a scare tactic, but probably not to educate, as the debating has made me weary
Posted on March 8, 2010 (10:12am)
@wormbuffet
It is pretty idiotic of you to think I would wan him banned for his opinion, and lame of you to accuse me of such thing!
If you read back, so you are clear, my saying I would, me and I alone, kick his ass out was for the reason of slander and false accusations he stated, NOT a differing opinion as for example when he says "See what happens when you take the truth and bend it a little?" that is an accusation not a different opinion, easy distinction no ?!?
Now that this is clear, that I did not at any point, that you can reference, stated his opinion was reason for a ban, and only his accusation were, maybe you are the one who should review your "getting along" kindergarten lessons!
I am a person quite opened to debate and discussion and well aware that it is a great learning tool, but I am also aware I should always read carefully and understand things before I open my big mouth, but that is a lesson I only learned after kindergarten!
Posted on March 8, 2010 (11:42am)
AMEN!
Posted on March 8, 2010 (4:49pm)
IDIOTS!
More gross pics please?
I'm glad the article ended with advising to go to a professional, instead of going on to slate the entire industry. That's a positive.
xx
Posted on March 9, 2010 (11:16am)
*I was talking about the article about the kid in Kansas, not yours, Adam. =] xx
Posted on March 9, 2010 (11:18am)
I'm not and would never claim to be a piercer but i have alot of mods n stuff, and no way would i ever let sumone do this too me! if u want mods bad enough then go get them done the propper way, you shouldn't begrudge the money for quality!
well done for showing these people for what they are!
Posted on March 10, 2010 (6:14pm)
Hope these people see limits and understand danger ...
ERK !
Posted on March 12, 2010 (6:14am)
wow .. I never knew that infections could go so wrong . And I've been piercing my self , yeh gloves and all , but still .
Time to start thinking !
Thank you for posting , you have really opend my eyes .
I'm starting my "schooling" at a piercing studio in january , wont tuch a needdle untill they say I can .
Sorry if my spelling is off , Swedish you know -.-'
Posted on March 12, 2010 (2:41pm)
Thats why I dont call myself a piercer. I want to learn from the bottom to top, in a slowly speed so I dont miss anything important.

No respect for the amateurs !
Posted on March 15, 2010 (2:16pm)
Adam, you just moved up a little higher in my book. Great article!
Posted on March 15, 2010 (6:24pm)
I first heard of this when it happened to my mother!

It is SCARY.

You have no idea, the smell is worse than anything you have ever smelt in your life. Never mind the pictures!

My mother's surgeon, a DOCTOR left non dissolving suture material in her hysterectomy wound.
This resulted in a surgical rupture. Shortly after she went into emergency surgery and barely survived.

The packing we had to put inside her body for six months to soak up the infection and the four hundred types of antibiotic we had to use on her for two years following...

I don't care WHO you are, I don't care if you are 18 or 48.

I had to learn at the age of 17 how to take care of my sick mother and how to keep the whole house clean enough to prevent re-infection and transmission.

If you think for a second your space is sterile, check again.

If you think industrial strength hospital cleaners are good enough, then think again.

No matter if your shop meets health board certifications or if you are some idiot piercing your lip with a kilt pin, disease does NOT care.

Disease does not know that you've won awards for being the best mod artist in the world.

Disease does not care if you are piercing yourself in the mens room at a strip joint.

If there is disease, you will get it.

I know there are different kinds of contact surfaces and different levels of sterilization required.

By Practice do what I do. One Up The Standards!

If it should be washed, sterilize, if it should be sterilized, dispose.

Posted on March 21, 2010 (4:37pm)
POINT IS

No matter WHO YOU ARE

No matter HOW PROFESSIONAL you are

Even Medical Doctors Mess Up.

Although the chances are higher that this kid in the pics is going to infect someone and do a lot of damage....

It can happen to ANYONE

Even Adam, and you, and YOU.

Because Any Client who walks in could be in that % that carries it.

Any Client could have Any disease.

That's not a risk worth taking.

I'd recommend only getting work at a shop that you've checked out 100 times over and know is safe.

Get all your work done with the same artist.

Know what your artist should know. And if they don't, don't be going to that studio any more.

Secondarily I will back up my man

FD- He knows more than any of you all and he is not a pro.

That guy spends all his time learning about EVERYTHING.

I would sooner ask him for advice than anyone else on this site.

He does not work in a studio, but he knows his stuff.

How many people out there work in a studio and are totally guilty of knowing less than your scratcher hack friend FD does.

All of you raise your hands I'm raising mine I know he knows more than I do!
Posted on March 21, 2010 (4:50pm)
i almost vomited a few times. THIS WAS MUCH NEEDED. OMG...OMFG. I can't eat...it takes A LOT to do that.
Posted on March 21, 2010 (5:19pm)
Well done sir... I'm going to print this article out to show the next person I hear complaining about the high cost of professional piercing...
Posted on March 23, 2010 (8:52am)
I POSTED THIS ON MY FACEBOOK PAGE. ADAM THIS WAS AWESOME AND VERY WELL PUT TOGETHER. HOPEFULLY SOME OF THE KIDS WILL GET A HINT. _thanks man. keep up the good work
Posted on March 25, 2010 (6:32pm)
I know this is not right
but hey most pros started like this
hell this whole community started like this
I did some stupid shit
and I still do sometimes
but sometimes it's a risk you have to take
but I do agree don't say you're a pro if you're not
Posted on March 30, 2010 (4:26pm)
I came her from Stumble Upon a while back and finally got to read this article and I couldn't agree more. What shocks me, and it shouldn't, is that kids actually do this. What's wrong with them?
Posted on April 10, 2010 (12:29am)
Thanks for those pic hope ppl just stop and think before they hurt sum one!!! Let the real body piercer/mod artist do the work ppl!
Posted on May 18, 2010 (10:14am)
thank you sir for this post, i am so sick of hearing some 15 yr old kid telling me i am afraid of competition, i wish it was that simple, i am seriously thinking of renting a billboard that has a hep article on it for those kind of kids
Posted on August 1, 2010 (6:41pm)
Sadly.....
There's no cure for "stupid". We need to hold a something-a-thon to raise money for the cure.
Posted on September 26, 2010 (8:38pm)
those pictures made me sick! Some people are just too stupid!
Posted on October 19, 2010 (5:11am)
I think everyone else has comented enough so I will just say HELL YEA. if you dont know dont do it.
Posted on November 2, 2010 (7:42pm)
best thing said all year.
Posted on November 7, 2010 (12:24pm)
i wish i could take these pictures and hang them in my shop to show to all the people who bitch about shop prices when they can get it so much cheaper from their "cousin"..in fact.. i just may do so! thanks!!!
Posted on May 13, 2011 (10:31pm)
You are definitely NOT an "old crazy guy". This stuff needs to be said!
Posted on May 25, 2011 (5:57pm)
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Posted on July 19, 2011 (7:59pm)
good on you!!!
Posted on August 28, 2011 (10:41am)
This article is really informative and sends us all a great message. I respect you a lot for being the "bad guy".
Posted on February 5, 2012 (6:56pm)
Hi Adam,

I will be doing a presentation at a local youth drop in and would like to include this in the presentation. Do you mind if I use it?

Thank You
Jay
Piercings By J
Posted on October 29, 2012 (1:43pm)
incredible!! I gasped several times at each photo, this is mortifying!
Posted on January 9, 2013 (6:31pm)
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