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Total Mods: 237 Joined: May/19/2010 Posts: 338 |
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THIS IS A DIRECT COPY AND PASTE FROM THE UNIMAX TATTOO SUPPLY COMPANY. I am asking a public opinion on this. Metal Content of
Piercing Jewelry - amounts to: Trust a Reliable Supplier There are no valid Mill Certificates for any Body Piercing Jewelry. This is pure deception. A "Mill Certificate" only certifies a particular batch of material and is good only so long as the material is not processed any further. In other words, as it is direct from the foundry. Where it goes afterwards, how it is cut up, is not "certified" because it goes through mother hands before it lands in your hands. The people insisting on "Certificates" don't even know that the material is only step number one, the final product has to be re-certified by the final processor to be meaningful. The original "Mill Certificate" is no longer valid. Body jewelry is not a medical
application. Body jewelry is not "approved" by the FDA. Distributors even mix different shipments
together and do not record lot numbers. Retailers mix them again. Non-F138-certified 316L SS
body jewelry has been used for the last 20 years. There is no scientific or rational
argument to support the assertion that ASTM F138 316LVM SS is necessary
or any better at all in body
jewelry application. The argument for 316LVM has no merit and must be
discarded as a fringe element within the piercing community. Non- F138 Certified 316L has
been used Safe "Usage" is accepted by
ASTM as ultimate proof of acceptability of the material used. Attempts to mislead piercers that 316LVM is the standard, or should be the standard is not based on fact or scientific evidence. There is no argument to support 316LVM. It is not relevant for body piercing jewelry. Read more at www.wreyeting.org
For piercing jewelry 316LVM is not any better than 316L for body jewelry. As an example, would
it make sense to buy the newest titanium alloy and pay a premium
Desperate Suppliers try and deceive YOU.
ASTM standards are the accepted way to
describe what something is
You may buy a USA made car but it has
most of the parts made overseas. Unimax has earned the Trust of users around the globe.
When suppliers lie, excepting mistakes, they
should not get your orders.
Most all
jewelry is made in Asia and
then only polished and assembled here. This is a
real phone call: He didn't get it.
It would make no sense to install
Formula 1 motors in So it is with body piercing jewelry.
Don't risk your business to the delusion
that people will pay more for an |
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There is always going to be a 'better' but people seem to forget there is also a 'good enough'. Yes quality jewelry is nicer, but history shows that the other has been used successfully much longer than some have harped on the need for 'better'. Offer both. Let people decide for themselves what they are willing to spend.
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Total Mods: 17 Joined: May/23/2009 Posts: 1793 |
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I agree with Montana.
316L just sits at the "lowest acceptable" side of the scale. Here in Britain piercers are required by law to use titanium, which is awesome. I'm not sure why that regulation isn't in use in the States! |
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Total Mods: 30 Joined: July/05/2010 Posts: 630 |
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Consider the source
I mean, really?! are you gonna trust unimax or Anatometal. This is no different than the piercer across town telling people I lie to them and their piercing will heal in two weeks. Edited by BigMikeHOOKED - August/23/2012 at 9:26pm |
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Total Mods: 30 Joined: July/05/2010 Posts: 630 |
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And as far as "made in (insert third world country) and assembled here does not make it made in USA", I have been to the IS facility and seen first hand that their jewelry is IN FACT made in the US as I know anatometal is.
This is propaganda. Give me enough time and I could write a compelling argument that sticking your dick in a blender is a good idea |
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Total Mods: 24 Joined: February/16/2006 Posts: 1836 |
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I have said for ages, that if you rubbed motor oil and broken glass in your piercings and never had a problem, good for you; I will keep doing sea salt soaks.
Am I going to buy sterile premixed isotonic wound wash because it is better than mixing my own solution? No. Will I only put 316LVM F-138 steel in my body? Yes. Vacuum remelted stainless steel has far fewer impurities than non-remelted 316L stainless steel. I have seen stress tests done to 316L and 316LVM. I would much rather pay a little extra for an obviously superior product. Edited by AlecTrosex - August/23/2012 at 11:28pm |
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![]() Total Mods: 124 Joined: May/21/2003 Posts: 4030 |
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I can think of a thousand things in everyday life, more important than a problematic piercing, where budget considerations play a role.
Tires. More important than the type of jewelry you wear. Car safety features. More important. Food.... do you buy all fresh, local organic? Or do you shop at walmart. Do you visit the doctor to the stars, or do you get treated at the local community clinic? Tattoos, I love the work of the some of the $500 an hour guys, but I can't afford it. Does that mean I shouldn't get tattooed? People get pissy if you they are not offered a choice, and you spend your days trying to convince the average customer why your jewelry cost more but is a better choice. Capitalist economy demands a price range for products. If people aren't willing to purchase the Cadillac, I would still be happy they bought anything off the lot, even a Yugo. I am not saying don't offer people the best, but I think you should understand, that no matter how much you want them to, the average client doesn't care. Don't ignore or ostracize a huge customer base. Edited by MontanaPiercer - August/24/2012 at 12:27am |
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Total Mods: 73 Joined: June/17/2009 Posts: 2513 |
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"There is hardly
anything in the world that some man cannot make a little worse and sell a
little cheaper, and the people who consider price only are this man's
lawful prey." - John Ruskin.
I tend to buy most things at a basic quality level. Unless I can't get better I don't go for something I know to be of a shitty level of quality, but I rarely can justify the best either. Although for mods I tend to go for good artists using good materials. Not 22K gold or anything but titanium where possible. Another thing I spend money on is books - I always go for nicer editions if I have enough money. |
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Total Mods: 30 Joined: July/05/2010 Posts: 630 |
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People dont care because they dont know the difference. Thats a cop-out and a lack of being a good salesman, both for yourself and your products. Where does the cutting of corners end once you start down that road.
Please know that I dont mean any offence by any of this, most of you on this thread know me well enough to know that. There are plenty of people in this industry that DO NOT CARE about their clients enough to offer them the best or even decent jewelry and standards. I know none of you are one of them. There is nothing wrong with taking a stand and going against the grain and offering ONLY top of the line. You're right, some people will not care and go down the street and get hacked up. The good part of that is, there is a great chance that person will one day be YOUR customer because after they get something shitty, they know where they can find the good stuff. I will not compromise my ethics to make a buck. There's a few words for describing people like that. |
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Total Mods: 30 Joined: July/05/2010 Posts: 630 |
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ANd how many times have you had someone come in with a brand new pair of Jordans, or some expensive ass handbag and then bitch about the price of a decent piercing with quality jewelry. These people pretend to know about quality in other areas, they just don't know any better about mods because no one ever took the time to EDUCATE them. AND THERE IN-LIES THE KEY TO ALL OF THIS
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