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Quote Omicr0n Replybullet Topic: Suspension???
    Posted: April/06/2004 at 5:10pm
Hmm could someone tell what the idear of suspension is, because i donĀ“t get it......

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Quote XritualX Replybullet Posted: April/06/2004 at 10:34pm
Suspention dates back a long time ago and exists in many differant parts of the world, for many differant reasons, depending on the specific culture and region. As far as this day and age in America, it maynot symbolize status within the community, or the transition from boy to man, but it carries a great deal of spiritual elightenment. Since many of the religous practices that entail suspention do NOT exist in America, most of the suspentions done are for personal gain whether spiritual, or just for the soul purpose of trying something new (although I do NOT agree with people who do it for shock value, since I feel they do not take away 100% what they should having completed such a wonderful procedure) Anyway, I suspended on Sunday, and it was amazing. I have pictures that I posted from it and people can see more on my online portfolio at www.insertionstudios.com/jshad/ I hope I helped XXX- Jeremy
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Quote MontanaPiercer Replybullet Posted: April/07/2004 at 1:54am

Actually the native americans suspended as a right of passage. I live in Montana, where the Sioux Nation still exist as well as Crow and a few others. Even now, though shunned by modern society, the Sioux still hold the Sundance Festival....which entails a vertical chest suspension...... O-KEE-PA.....

so anyway...yes it still exist in some North American culture....though I must agree that it is dying out, and being replaced by shock artists.....

too bad`

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Quote XritualX Replybullet Posted: April/07/2004 at 2:31pm

Yeah I agree, in my statement I hadn't really considered the native american culture (within North America)  that exists still today. How ironic that is considering I myself am almost full blooded native american (Chipawa). In my rambling, it was more generalizing, then specifics. Good point though Adam, I think it was good you were able to clarify that better.

It is ashame that such things are being taken and cheapened. It seems to be abundantly clear that anything with substance and meaning, that eventually grows in populaity within a certain group or subculture, is eventually worn down and holds nothing original about the procedure. Piercing existed throught the world years ago, and each piercing had a signifigant meaning. Now a days for most, it symbolizes only freedom of expression, or just worn as decoration. Not saying that it's bad considering my body is adorned with many mods, that had cultural and spiritual signifigance, and for me the process was spirtual, but the outcome is for decoration.

As piercing gains in popularity, I hope the choice to join the modified community is more thought out, and not just a "she had one so I got one" mentality.  As great as it is that it pays my bills, it's more gratifying personally to pierce someone whose heart and soul is into the bettering of themself, and this community! WHEW that was long winded. Anyway thanks again Adam for the response. XXX- Jeremy

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Quote chaibone Replybullet Posted: April/07/2004 at 3:07pm
When you say shock artists, do you mean freak show entertainers and such stuff, or just people who are into it personally just to say they suspend and shock people(or maybe you mean both perhaps)
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Quote MontanaPiercer Replybullet Posted: April/07/2004 at 6:58pm

I hate to generalize too much about other peoples' motivations, my only point being that it seems that most people who are doing suspension these days have lost the historical and spiritual significance to the act. I am in no way saying this applies to everyone....but case in point, just ask many of them about the cultural aspects to these rituals and they are clueless. I simply have little respect for those who perform these rites held sacred by many primative cultures, for a cool photo op and an interesting story.

That being said, it is only my opinion, and you know what that is worth.....2 cents anyone?

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Quote XritualX Replybullet Posted: April/09/2004 at 12:25pm
I couldnt have said it better Adam. XXX - Jeremy
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Quote XritualX Replybullet Posted: April/09/2004 at 12:48pm

When I say shock artists I mean, people who do suspentions and whatnot for the sole reason is to make everyone think they are weird or crazy. Freak shows are fine but when they incorporate things that really aren't that freaky, such as suspentions and piercings, it kind of loses it's sense of purpose. It's a pretty sad state of affairs, actually to be honest what Adam said covered everything I am about to say. i.e "I simply have little respect for those who perform these rites held sacred by many primative cultures, for a cool photo op and an interesting story" to me, that is the wrong reason for choosing such paths to follow. Like Adam said, it's just the opinion of this person. Each his own I suppose. XXX- Jeremy

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Quote chaibone Replybullet Posted: April/09/2004 at 3:00pm

Thanx guys, just curios and just not sure what you meant, I brought up the freak show thing though cause I didnt see anytrhing wrong with it, However I may as well add, knowing what you mean I see your point, and maybe cause its not so big up her, but I didnt know to much of people doin it just to look cool or whatever, what really got the air of it up where I live is the sundance thing that was mentioned, so anybody i have met that has interest has been for honorable reasons i guess you could say, you could also say i live in a sheltered area when it comes to these kinda things, and as its been said its really each to there own 

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Quote Omicr0n Replybullet Posted: April/12/2004 at 2:34pm
Thx for ur replys.... now i understand ......

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