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Total Mods: -1 Joined: July/16/2005 Location: Luxembourg Posts: 1412 |
Posted: August/18/2008 at 3:27am |
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"It is a great representation of the modified community." (Cheesestix)
Ok. It's a great representation of the community, but it can't be a good representation of an individual. I get it.
"What ISN'T a great representation of the community is people whining about it." (cheesestix)
I can't agree more. And so did I one year ago, but whining people took the upper hand, and posting a genital as your avatar became a major offense. And a huge witch hunt has been organized ever since.
Still, when an individual has only mods in his genitals, I think that an image of his genitals is a fair representation of his existence as a modder.
Now don't make me wrong. I never said that I didn't want or was shocked by this picture on front page. Neither did I say that I didn't want this anti-cock and cunt avatar rule. It's just that I don't see quite well the logics. And if the logics are "it is Adam's website he can do whatever he wants with it", then ok no prob, but owning a site doesn't mean that you own my logics.
Now let's move to a little story.
Two bonze in Tibet walk in their monasterys kitchen garden. First one sees a slug on a lettuce, grabs it and throws it back to nature, out of the kitchen garden.
First one says "But brother, you can't do that !! That slug deserves the right to live and needs its daily lettuce ration."
Second monk answers "Brother, if we leave slugs eat our lettuce, we'll all die by starvation. And we are a life form as well !!"
They discuss their points during an hour, both defending their views, and after one hour of arguement they decide to submit the case to the venerable bonze.
Venerable master listens to first bonze, and after a few seconds thinking, says : "you're right my son, nobody has the right to deprive a slug from its lettuce".
Listens to second, thinks a few seconds, and says : "you're right, nobody should deprive us from the little food we need everyday to meditate".
Then another bonze in the room says "but venerable master, they can't say contradictory things and be both right !!"
Venerable bonze closes his eyes, concentrates, smoke goes through his ears, and after a while open his eyes, smiles and says : "and you, you are right as well my son". Edited by Rouslan - August/18/2008 at 3:41am |
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Total Mods: 42 Joined: January/11/2005 Location: Malta Posts: 5333 |
Posted: August/18/2008 at 5:59am |
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i don't know what this fuss is all about. it's not an explicit image - it's tasteful, not obscene, and you can't really make out the bodypart just at first glance.
i don't have children, but i have parents and siblings. i tend to be careful when logging in, making sure there's no one behind me etc etc etc. and if there is, i bring up either my own profile or the forums. you don't necessarily have to go back to homepage to get to your profile. get to main forum page, scroll down to the very bottom, and click on your own nickname from the active members list. or off a thread you posted on. the main difference between having a genital avatar and having a genital mod as mod of the moment is that the avatars would be following you around on profiles, and forums. the mod of the moment can be easily skipped. and hey, it's nice to see that even twinkies can get featured, not just women's boobies |
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Total Mods: 52 Joined: February/18/2007 Posts: 1870 |
Posted: August/18/2008 at 7:09am |
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This has been said multiple times, by multiple people, I believe... but the point doesn't seem to be getting across. Rouslan, I know you enjoy the debating, but this is a really old, tired, and worn out topic. |
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Total Mods: 27 Joined: January/01/2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1244 |
Posted: August/18/2008 at 7:43am |
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I haven't read the thread in it's entirity so I do apologise if this point has already been raised, but this is an adult site, with adult content, if you are worried about people looking over your shoulder to see some jewellery in a very small section of a Penis, you shouldn't be on BodyMod.org.
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Total Mods: 8 Joined: July/28/2008 Posts: 19 |
Posted: August/18/2008 at 7:44am |
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wow some major debates going on here...it's a lil scary honestly. lol. let's keep it light, no?
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-Jess
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Total Mods: 27 Joined: January/01/2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1244 |
Posted: August/18/2008 at 7:48am |
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It just reminds me of the time the skinned Penis was removed.
I don't want this site going all vanilla. |
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Total Mods: 12 Joined: May/21/2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 297 |
Posted: August/18/2008 at 7:56am |
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im personaly not offended at all by the mod being on the home page.
as people have said, this is not a child friendly website therefore saying you can't go onto the homepage with children about isnt realy a good reason to have it taken down.
on the other hand though i am a little worried about what new people to the site and guests will think when they are greeted with a giant picture of a ball sack! lol.
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www.myspace.com/xxxjessiexxx
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Total Mods: 13 Joined: May/29/2008 Posts: 35 |
Posted: August/18/2008 at 7:58am |
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to remove a body mod based on its conent is censorship and i'd be dissapointed if that were to happen,
i use this site at work atm because my home p.c is gone, so yeah when i go to homepage i have to scroll down, but hey this is a body modification site
to me it worries me that the big problem with genital avatars and now this seems to be coming from people who are less actively involved body modders, thats not to say they dont contribute greatly to the site through posts and such but they have few and rather common mods,
i just think that the people with heavier mods are not creating the fuss over something which the website is designed to be about,
its like complaining you see to much arsehole in porn,
i have a 10mm P.A and scrotal piercings, i dont choose to have pics uploaded because i dont feel there is any real need to add my pics to an already massive library of man meat, but that doesnt mean i want them gone,
as a comfortably straight male i would rather see a nice set of pierced balls than another nose stud or small tribal tattoo
its modification in its entirety, take the rough with the smooth folks
x Edited by Rodeo-Core - August/18/2008 at 11:46am |
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Total Mods: 11 Joined: June/14/2007 Location: United States Posts: 342 |
Posted: August/18/2008 at 12:08pm |
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Really, the uproar is because of the seemingly circular logic that posting an avatar picture of genitalia is forbidden because of the number of people who don't want a cock in their face when they sign on to the forums or posted on their profile in the recently viewed section, but when you hit the "return to BodyMod.org" link from the forums, it's there.
I have no issues with the picture in and of itself displayed on the homepage, nor do I take issue with genital avatars, but I do see a glaringly obvious discrepancy in the logic, and it seems that if you're going to mandate one, you should be consistant with both. That way, these inconvenient little debates won't be an issue.
As for the old "this site isn't meant for kids" it is true, but it's also used to excuse unacceptable behavior. There are those of us who are very open about the human body and don't rear our kids with physical and sexual taboos. I, personally, view modification as an artform, and just as I wouldn't shield my children from images such as the Venus de Milo, the statue of David, or Michelangelo's God Creates Adam, I'm not going to shield my children from any form of modification. I *do* take offense to obscenity that has been posted on the forums and in the mods, since it's clearly against the terms and conditions that Adam has brought forth. So I take offense to the "this isn't a site meant for kids" adage being thrown out when the poster is indisputedly in the wrong. This may not be a site meant for children, but there are rules and accountabilities that have been put in place that are blatantly disregarded. I consider myself an extremely openminded person, but I don't want to see some guy sticking his fist up his ass in a picture that is supposed to showcase his mods, or a picture of someone pulling a chick's panties out to photograph her shitting herself. If I wanted to look at something like that, I'd google fettish porn sites, but the last time I checked, this site isn't porn, it's "art that we would hang on our walls."
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Look, if you want to torture me, spank me, lick me, do it. But if this poetry sh!t continues, shoot me now, please.- Tank Girl
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Total Mods: 11 Joined: June/14/2007 Location: United States Posts: 342 |
Posted: August/18/2008 at 12:28pm |
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You don't find it a little inappropriate to liken this site to porn? That's not really a great reprensentation of the modified community, especially since sites like this attempt to break down that barrier and stress that this is a form of artistic expression, NOT pornography.
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Look, if you want to torture me, spank me, lick me, do it. But if this poetry sh!t continues, shoot me now, please.- Tank Girl
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