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Topic: Replace teeth with solid titanium teeth implants
Posted By: Titanium_teeth
Subject: Replace teeth with solid titanium teeth implants
Date Posted: June/29/2010 at 9:46pm
Hello!

I'm new in this forum. I'm from Spain, maybe my English is not perfect. I am 25, and I am male, and I doesn't have body modifications (for the moment).

I was wondering if It's possible to replace the teeth with a titanium teeth. It could be like the current gold implants, but with titanium. I'm not referring to the current implants with ceramic pieces, I mean a teeth with only titanium pieces. Did You see Moonraker? (James Bond movie) Jaws had something like this, but... I want it with nice teeth with the same shape than natural teeth, not something robotic!

It's possible to do this? Do You know if someone has this modification? Does titanium teeth have advantages over natural teeth? Maybe, It could be stronger, cleaner, less problems with caries. Also, every tooth could have a perfect size, position, shape... my current mouth are far from perfect.

Also, It is important to know if a titanium teeth needs visiting the dentist periodically. I would prefer to have it and forgot all the problems of the natural teeth and get rid of the dentist visits.

Can You imagine to be able to open a bottle with your own mouth, without bottle opener and without risk for your teeth? Or being able to eat sweet product without problems of caries? Or eat nuts opening them with your own mouth without damaging your teeth? It would be great, but I must to know the problems that could have this body modification.

I know that this could be difficult, expensive and not reversible. I should be sure before doing this crazy modification.

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Posted By: hate_is_man
Date Posted: June/29/2010 at 10:20pm
youd still have to brush them because everything in your mouth gets coated in plaque. i've actually thought about this too. seems like a good idea.


Posted By: Titanium_teeth
Date Posted: June/29/2010 at 10:28pm
Yes, I should brush teeth to have my mouth clean.


Posted By: Carrie_p2005
Date Posted: June/30/2010 at 12:03am
You would still need regular dental visits to ensure that your gums are healthy.  Also, many diseases can be detected by oral exams, before you have any symptoms (diabetes is one of these diseases).  Without visits to the dentist, and proper cleaning below the gum line, you could develop gingivitis or periodontal disease, even without regular teeth.  It would keep cavities from ever being a problem again.

I'm sure this COULD be done, but finding someone willing and able to do it is another story. 


Posted By: vampire311
Date Posted: June/30/2010 at 2:46am
This has been done before not sure if it was titanium or not but it has been done

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Posted By: Jack Crrack
Date Posted: June/30/2010 at 6:38am
I met someone with metal teeth. Not sure if they were caps or fully metal teeth though.

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Posted By: Veilside
Date Posted: June/30/2010 at 9:47am
I don't see why not.

Rather than use ceramic or whatever they use for implants, just use titanium.

Finding someone that could do it would be another matter. Tooling titanium to the right shape would be very expensive.

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Posted By: AlecTrosex
Date Posted: June/30/2010 at 12:26pm
I don't know about Spain, but I know that in the eastern United States tooth implants cost around $2500 each. Good luck in your endeavors.


Posted By: Amplexus
Date Posted: June/30/2010 at 1:43pm
Originally posted by Carrie_p2005

You would still need regular dental visits to ensure that your gums are healthy.  Also, many diseases can be detected by oral exams, before you have any symptoms (diabetes is one of these diseases).  Without visits to the dentist, and proper cleaning below the gum line, you could develop gingivitis or periodontal disease, even without regular teeth.  It would keep cavities from ever being a problem again.

I'm sure this COULD be done, but finding someone willing and able to do it is another story. 


Oral cancers are usually detected via routine dental visits. In the future, certain mdecines you may be prescribed could have a detremental effect to the health of the gingiva, necessitating the advice of a dentist at the very least.

It would be important to see a dentist annually to make sure you're not exhibiting signs of gingivitis (which leads to perio disease) because this leads to loss of the alveolar bone, which the posts for the implants would be screwed into. Avoiding gingivitis and resulting periodontitis is easy (unless you're one of the unlucky few who suffers due to hereditory factors) with good oral hygiene, using things like interdental brushes and flossing every day whilst using a good mouth wash.

And again, like I've said to many people enquiring about extreme cosmetic dental treatment, finding a good dental practitioner who will do the work for you will be hard - it's drummed into them from the moment they begin training that they should always preserve healthy natural teeth where possible.

With titanium, like Alectrosex said, the implants will be more expensive. I'd imagine somewhere above $3000 at least.

Good luck to you, keep us posted.


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Posted By: whoswhose
Date Posted: June/30/2010 at 3:19pm
I don't know if this helps but I once knew of a woman who had metal (Chromium I believe) dentures for eating. She had such a strong 'bite' that she broke plastic ones repeatedly.

If you would consider dentures rather than implants this may provide a cheaper solution. If still available


Posted By: holelottalove
Date Posted: June/30/2010 at 6:17pm
Originally posted by Titanium_teeth

...my current mouth are far from perfect.
Also, It is important to know if a titanium teeth needs visiting the dentist periodically. I would prefer to have it and
forgot all the problems of the natural teeth and get rid of the dentist visits.
Actually, if you have implant treatment, it's arguably even more important for you to have regular dental examinations than if you keep your own teeth! Although implants are often said to be a permanent treatment, they're still dependent on the alveolar ridge (bone) that they're placed in. Periodontal disease or infection can lead to gingival recession and subsequent resorption of the alveolar bone...which means bye bye very expensive implants. And if your oral hygiene is lacking at present, then don't be suprised if dentists insist on seeing an improvement before undertaking implant work. Let's not forget it's a surgical procedure and if your intra-oral condition is poor then infection and other post-op complications are much more likely.
 
Originally posted by Amplexus


And again, like I've said to many people enquiring about extreme cosmetic dental treatment, finding a good dental
practitioner who will do the work for you will be hard - it's drummed into them from the moment they begin training that
they should always preserve healthy natural teeth where possible.
+1
Very true, some of the dentists I've worked with even shy away from doing established conventional cosmetic treatments like veneers or whitening, just because we get so brainwashed (in a good way) into going all-out to preserve natural teeth.
 
Originally posted by whoswhose

I don't know if this helps but I once knew of a woman who had metal (Chromium I believe) dentures for eating. She had such a strong 'bite' that she broke plastic ones repeatedly.

If you would consider dentures rather than implants this may provide a cheaper solution. If still available
These would be cobalt-chromium dentures. Standard dentures are made fully out of acrylic, but by casting the main base of the denture to cobalt-chromium it makes the denture stronger and lighter, and as you can use less material, it's also more comfortable for the patient to wear. Due to the added strength, they're recommended for patients with deep/heavy bites too. However they can't just be chrome. The gingivae and teeth are always still acrylic.
 
 
Source; I'm studying dentistry, currently funding training by working as a registered dental nurse (in a practice offering implant treatments) and as a registered dental technician (in a laboratory making dentures, crowns, etc). I don't know everything, by far, but I should be able to help out with any specific questions about this subject Pleased


Posted By: steeldragon87
Date Posted: June/30/2010 at 7:38pm
Replacing my teeth with some righteous titanium ones has been a fantasy I've had for a while. Aside from infection, I wonder what other complications might arise from dental implants? And I wonder how it would effect daily living...


Posted By: Titanium_teeth
Date Posted: June/30/2010 at 9:34pm
Thanks for You replies.

About the visits to the dentist, ok, I know that I can get rid of them, but at least It would be more difficult to have diseases and problems.

About metal dentures: They could be a easy way to ensure that I want this modification. Maybe wearing It some weeks before get the titanium teeth.

I will try to search more information about this, and post it here. And if finally I get the new teeth, I would send You photos, but It would take time, because It is not a little steep. Having a stronger teeth and a metallic smile would be great, but I must have the money and I must be sure before doing it.

You can find a "preview" if You search "teeth" in mod galleries. There are people that wears metallic fangs (maybe over the canine tooth). For me, I will use only the typical teeth of humans, without fangs.


Posted By: Veilside
Date Posted: July/01/2010 at 4:14am
Originally posted by steeldragon87

Replacing my teeth with some righteous titanium ones has been a fantasy I've had for a while. Aside from infection, I wonder what other complications might arise from dental implants? And I wonder how it would effect daily living...


My grandfather has had all his teeth replaced with implants. No problems to report, other than the procedure itself being damned uncomfortable.

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Posted By: Jack Crrack
Date Posted: July/01/2010 at 5:43am
Same with mine. He chipped one, but got it replaced rather easily.

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Posted By: Veilside
Date Posted: July/01/2010 at 6:09am
Worth reiterating the point that titanium is expensive and very hard to machine.

I think you'd be lucky to get something custom done for $4k per tooth.

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Posted By: Titanium_teeth
Date Posted: July/01/2010 at 7:42am
Originally posted by Veilside

Worth reiterating the point that titanium is expensive and very hard to machine.

I think you'd be lucky to get something custom done for $4k per tooth.
It would be expensive, but It only would be interesting in this way.


Posted By: Veilside
Date Posted: July/01/2010 at 11:40am
Originally posted by Titanium_teeth


Originally posted by Veilside

Worth reiterating the point that titanium is expensive and very hard to machine.

I think you'd be lucky to get something custom done for $4k per tooth.
It would be expensive, but It only would be interesting in this way.


If you're willing to drop over $100k into a mod with no discernible benefit...

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Posted By: Titanium_teeth
Date Posted: July/01/2010 at 12:38pm
Originally posted by Veilside

Originally posted by Titanium_teeth


Originally posted by Veilside

Worth reiterating the point that titanium is expensive and very hard to machine.

I think you'd be lucky to get something custom done for $4k per tooth.
It would be expensive, but It only would be interesting in this way.


If you're willing to drop over $100k into a mod with no discernible benefit...
I would ask some dentist to know prices before drop the idea. Also, I am not planning this for the next week, It would take too many time.

Of course, this would have discernible benefits. My current teeth is a bit ugly.


Posted By: holelottalove
Date Posted: July/01/2010 at 12:40pm
Originally posted by Titanium_teeth

About metal dentures: They could be a easy way to ensure that I want this modification. Maybe wearing It some weeks before get the titanium teeth.
Hmm. The flaw I see in this plan is that in order to trial your denture, you'll need your extractions done first. Say, then, that during or following your denture trial, you decide a mouth full of metal isn't for you, it's kinda a bit too late by then!
 
Originally posted by Titanium_teeth

Originally posted by Veilside

Originally posted by Titanium_teeth


Originally posted by Veilside

Worth reiterating the point that titanium is expensive and very hard to machine.

I think you'd be lucky to get something custom done for $4k per tooth.
It would be expensive, but It only would be interesting in this way.


If you're willing to drop over $100k into a mod with no discernible benefit...
I would ask some dentist to know prices before drop the idea. Also, I am not planning this for the next week, It would take too many time.
Just to throw another idea out - have you consider having this done as an implant-retained denture? Or even cheaper (though not as good long term prognosis) as a set of F/F dentures with intra-coronal retention?


Posted By: xjessiex
Date Posted: July/01/2010 at 11:18pm

I noticed sampa Von cyborg has metal caps of some sort... my dudes sister is doing her final semester of becoming a dental technician.
t's my boyfriends idea to have metal skulls inside implants he will have made- his teeth didn't grow out of his gum all the way, so they were pulled the rest of the way, but as a result the teeth do not have enamel at the top, and they've started to decay.

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Posted By: Titanium_teeth
Date Posted: July/02/2010 at 11:26am
Originally posted by xjessiex


I noticed sampa Von cyborg has metal caps of some sort... my dudes sister is doing her final semester of becoming a dental technician.
t's my boyfriends idea to have metal skulls inside implants he will have made- his teeth didn't grow out of his gum all the way, so they were pulled the rest of the way, but as a result the teeth do not have enamel at the top, and they've started to decay.

Very nice teeth, It looks powerful and strong. I like it:

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=48955115&albumID=720632&imageID=2926801
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=48955115&albumID=720632&imageID=3515637#a=720632&i=3515637
http://bodymodifications.net/member/samppa_von_cyborg/66039/
http://bodymodifications.net/member/samppa_von_cyborg/66038/

I suppose that a teeth replacement would look like it and It would be much better than a denture or caps.


Posted By: holelottalove
Date Posted: July/02/2010 at 12:54pm
[QUOTE=xjessiex] I noticed sampa Von cyborg has metal caps of some sort... QUOTE] Looks like crowns or veneers in the photos, which again would be a better/cheaper/much more realistic option than having teeth extracted and full set of implants.


Posted By: fuckmunki
Date Posted: February/19/2011 at 4:40am
This is an old topic but I hadn't seen anyone mention this. I have looked into this a few years ago but not with titanium - rather with steel crowns.

I had found that implants were insanely expensive but that in Eastern Europe (Romania specifically if I remember) there were dental hospital who perform this service as a package holiday deal for approx €300 per tooth.


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Posted By: Titanium_teeth
Date Posted: March/09/2012 at 3:00pm
I'm sorry for bumping this old topic, but I have found two interesting pictures:

http://www.strangecosmos.com/content/item/6190.html
http://myownhell.tumblr.com/post/14383093019/hitokiri-battosai-i-want-metal-teeth-samppa

I want to have metallic teeth like them, It looks awesome, and their mouths are stronger than mine.

Also, I have read that some dogs have titanium fangs, but they are only covers for damaged fangs, not a full replacement.
It's very difficult to find information and most of it is about these dogs.


Posted By: Titanium_teeth
Date Posted: September/12/2021 at 7:48am
Hello.
I'm me again, some time ago I found more information about this topic.

Just watch and listen them:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BLUGbwOh7cu/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BLUGbwOh7cu/ - https://www.instagram.com/p/BLUGbwOh7cu/

His name is Jean Luc Verna, he is French and he god most of his teeth replaced by solid titanium replicas, it's not a grill, crownes or caps, they are solid metal teeth replacements from the root. Not breakages, not rooting, just shiny and strong titanium teeth. Listen how they sound, much better than my teeth, they also looks better. The result is awesome, it's a bit expensive but the idea is great. I see it as a body improvement.

Another example was Genesis Breyer P-Orridge (now dead Unimpressed), who replace his teeth by gold ones ("Put your gold where your mouth is").

https://www.instagram.com/p/B5L2CunBr92/
https://www.instagram.com/p/B5L2CunBr92/ - https://www.instagram.com/p/B5L2CunBr92/

There are more examples, but most of them only a few teeth.

Another idea related to this topic is that I have read that there are research for implants that works just like natural teeth ("ligaplants"), the idea is great: instead of placing the implant directly in the bone, they try to mimic the support of original teeth, this has some advantages, you have better pressure sensitivity. Just imagine the advantages of the original teeth, but without the problems of rooting discolouring or breakages.

I am reviving this old thread because I think that it could be helpful for a lot of people.

I don't know if I will be here 9 years later Dunce  , but at least I hope that other people can get some help about this improvement body modification. If you are interested, I can post more information if I find it.

Of course, If I have the opportunity of having this body mod done on me, I would try to share the experience with you. I would choose titanium because it is strong and nice. The problem... you know: you need to be economically independent, because society most of times doesn't allow this. Disgust Also, it seems that it is very expensive, so you need a job that doesn't depend on other people judgement and a lot of money (which I don't have).

Best regards.


Posted By: Titanium_teeth
Date Posted: August/25/2022 at 6:51pm
Another interesting idea related to this: root shaped implants. Instead of drilling the jawbone, the new tooth is made from a CT scan, then the original tooth is pulled and the new tooth inserted. This keeps the original tooth's root shape.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_analogue_dental_implant - https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_analogue_dental_implant
https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_analogue_dental_implant

It fits better with my idea, because it would keep better the function of the teeth (I only want a material change, not a total modification).
The implants would be made in solid titanium (solid implant without crown, a single piece from root to surface) and I believe that this could be doable and possible. The biggest problem is the social acceptance (some people will not accept solid metal teeth Disgust ). The cost is also an obstacle because it would be needed to replace 32 teeth.

I am keeping this thread updated because it seems that some people find it interesting. I don't know if this is helpful for them, but at least they can have a starting point to find information. Maybe this is more related with transhumanism than body modification.

If you are interested, you can leave a comment or ask something.

Advice: avoid not removable grills, sometimes they hide dental problems and they are discovered too late. Also, I have read that if the covers doesn't have an space between teeth, they are more difficult to clean. I believe that solid metal teeth implants are better than having permanent metal caps or grills.



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