I'm not offended by what he does to his body or the mod in general, I'm just offended because I like this site allot and I supported it by joining it and I feel I should be given a choice on whether or not I want to see someone else's private parts everytime I log in.

 

I personally don't think it's fair that I have to see that everday. I'm a lesbian and I wouldn't even want to see a pierced clit on the front everyday...so this isn't a matter of gender, or even type of body modification, I just don't find it necessary to post someone's private parts on the very FRONT of the website. 

 

 

I think it should be changed, and the choice in wanting to see someone's private areas modified should be given.

 

Please take this into consideration. Thanks.

And I mean not to offend anyone, I only would like the choice because I don't find it necessary to see someone else's parts so often.

 

Thanks.

 

 

xx

 

here here CheeseStix! although a large penis picture isn't what I expected to be greeted with yesterday morning (was it put up yesterday?), it fits perfectly into the confines of the modding community. I like it better than the previous face close-up. 

 

Well cheese, I find that your words are somewhat hypocritical and that you won't be able to hold your position. Why?

 

First, I'd like to say that I'm not bothered at all by this kind of postings or pictures on the front page. Still, we had lots of discussions almost one year ago about people posting a picture of their genitals as their avatar. And the general conclusion of most people was then that genital pictures were unsuitable for avatars because they did want to be able to chose if they wanted to look at genital pictures or not.

 

At that time I was opposed to that, but still, Adam - probably following the majority - decided that it would be a rule not to post a picture of your genitals as your avatar.

 

Now the same problem comes today with the front page. And I don't see where it's different : basically, it's about choosing to look at genital pictures or not looking at them. If it was bad one year ago to force people to look at your genitals, I don't see why it would be different today.

 

Again, my own opinion is that I honnestly don't give a shit about seing genitals, pierced clits or whatever you may imagine on front page or as avatars. But since it was decided once that genital pictures were offensive as avatars, and since some people also felt that something should be made (18+ signs to tell people they would look at adult stuff before they'd have seen them) to prevent people from looking at genitals even in profile mods pictures, I find it quite hypocritical to come today with a picture on front page and defend that point of view when the position was one year ago just the opposite.

 

As a conclusion, if the official rules of the site are that you shouldn't post pictures of your parts as your avatar (because it may bother other people) I honnestly don't understand that such a picture may end up on front page.

 

Plus, it's not xmas.

 

But posting your cock/cunt as your avatar became unauthorized, and when I think back about how big that was an affair on the site, and about the politically correct ensuing witch hunt, I just find it quite unlogical to post that today as front page mod.

 

And I agree that cheese wasn't admin at that time, but still find it funny to have the site admins explaining one thing one year ago and the opposite today.

 

That's very true...

the whole adding to favorites thing worked for me...simple solution, and I can still enjoy the site.

xx

But, this a body modification site, the featured mod' section is for showcasing great mod's, and that is what this is. The picture is not sleazy, it has not been taken in a distasteful way, it's entire focus in on the piercings. I see no problem, and I honestly think that if you can't deal with it, then maybe you need to re-evaluate your visiting the site. What right does anyone have to come in here and dictate that because they don't like something, it should be taken down? It's Adam's site. Not yours. There is nothing that Adam, nor any of the moderators can ever do to make everyone happy.

Censorship of this image just seems completely unnecissary. This is a site for adults, not children, and granted, the image may not be to your taste, but you should be able to handle it as a mature adult and make your own decision to not look at it if it bothers you so much.

 

Edit: I should really start reading ahead instead of posting the same thing that was said two pages over from the one I quoted...

"It is a great representation of the modified community." (Cheesestix)

 

Ok. It's a great representation of the community, but it can't be a good representation of an individual. I get it.

 

"What ISN'T a great representation of the community is people whining about it." (cheesestix)

 

I can't agree more. And so did I one year ago, but whining people took the upper hand, and posting a genital as your avatar became a major offense. And a huge witch hunt has been organized ever since.

 

Still, when an individual has only mods in his genitals, I think that an image of his genitals is a fair representation of his existence as a modder.

 

Now don't make me wrong. I never said that I didn't want or was shocked by this picture on front page. Neither did I say that I didn't want this anti-cock and cunt avatar rule. It's just that I don't see quite well the logics. And if the logics are "it is Adam's website he can do whatever he wants with it", then ok no prob, but owning a site doesn't mean that you own my logics.

 

Now let's move to a little story.

 

 

 

Two bonze in Tibet walk in their monasterys kitchen garden. First one sees a slug on a lettuce, grabs it and throws it back to nature, out of the kitchen garden.

 

First one says "But brother, you can't do that !! That slug deserves the right to live and needs its daily lettuce ration."

 

Second monk answers "Brother, if we leave slugs eat our lettuce, we'll all die by starvation. And we are a life form as well !!"

 

They discuss their points during an hour, both defending their views, and after one hour of arguement they decide to submit the case to the venerable bonze.

 

Venerable master listens to first bonze, and after a few seconds thinking, says : "you're right my son, nobody has the right to deprive a slug from its lettuce".

 

Listens to second, thinks a few seconds, and says : "you're right, nobody should deprive us from the little food we need everyday to meditate".

 

 

 

as people have said, this is not a child friendly website therefore saying you can't go onto the homepage with children about isnt realy a good reason to have it taken down.

on the other hand though i am a little worried about what new people to the site and guests will think when they are greeted with a giant picture of a ball sack! lol.

 

i use this site at work atm because my home p.c is gone, so yeah when i go to homepage i have to scroll down, but hey this is a body modification site

 

to me it worries me that the big problem with genital avatars and now this seems to be coming from people who are less actively involved body modders, thats not to say they dont contribute greatly to the site through posts and such but they have few and rather common mods,

 

i just think that the people with heavier mods are not creating the fuss over something which the website is designed to be about,

 

its like complaining you see to much arsehole in porn,

 

i have a 10mm P.A and scrotal piercings, i dont choose to have pics uploaded because i dont feel there is any real need to add my pics to an already massive library of man meat, but that doesnt mean i want them gone,

 

as a comfortably straight male i would rather see a nice set of pierced balls than another nose stud or small tribal tattoo

 

its modification in its entirety, take the rough with the smooth folks

 

x

 

Really, the uproar is because of the seemingly circular logic that posting an avatar picture of genitalia is forbidden because of the number of people who don't want a cock in their face when they sign on to the forums or posted on their profile in the recently viewed section, but when you hit the "return to bodymod.org" link from the forums, it's there.

 

I have no issues with the picture in and of itself displayed on the homepage, nor do I take issue with genital avatars, but I do see a glaringly obvious discrepancy in the logic, and it seems that if you're going to mandate one, you should be consistant with both. That way, these inconvenient little debates won't be an issue.

 

As for the old "this site isn't meant for kids" it is true, but it's also used to excuse unacceptable behavior. There are those of us who are very open about the human body and don't rear our kids with physical and sexual taboos. I, personally, view modification as an artform, and just as I wouldn't shield my children from images such as the Venus de Milo, the statue of David, or Michelangelo's God Creates Adam, I'm not going to shield my children from any form of modification. I *do* take offense to obscenity that has been posted on the forums and in the mods, since it's clearly against the terms and conditions that Adam has brought forth.  So I take offense to the "this isn't a site meant for kids" adage being thrown out when the poster is indisputedly in the wrong. This may not be a site meant for children, but there are rules and accountabilities that have been put in place that are blatantly disregarded. I consider myself an extremely openminded person, but I don't want to see some guy sticking his fist up his ass in a picture that is supposed to showcase his mods, or a picture of someone pulling a chick's panties out to photograph her shitting herself. If I wanted to look at something like that, I'd google fettish porn sites, but the last time I checked, this site isn't porn, it's "art that we would hang on our walls."

 

You don't find it a little inappropriate to liken this site to porn? That's not really a great reprensentation of the modified community, especially since sites like this attempt to break down that barrier and stress that this is a form of artistic expression, NOT pornography.

xxx

 

Ok, the site has apparantly eaten my response, so I'll edit it if it shows up.

First of all, if you want a picture of a girl shitting herself on your walls, that's fine. Adam hasn't written caveats for your walls, but he has for this site, and he stipulates that anything vulgar (please excuse my use of the word obscene) or sexually oriented doesn't have a place anywhere on this site, be it in the mods, on the forums, or in your personal journal. To quote:

 

I don't disagree with you in the least. This is the reason why Adam lists caveats for vulgarity and sexual images. It's not a site that most would mistake for being child friendly and there is an expectation of explicit images being posted to this site. That's why explicit avatar images and featured mods don't bother me.

 

But I do get offended when someone uses the "not child friendly" excuse as a retort when they post something that *is* sexual in nature or flat out vulgar. It's not a wall that they can hide behind when they're in blatant disregard of the caveats, since we ALL agree to the conditions when we register.

I've never ventured to interpret Adam's actions, I've never suggested that he has a problem with something that I do, and I've never asked that Adam come and pull the mod from the front page. Once again, I see no problem with explicit features or explicit avatars, because this is a body modification site and I explicit images don't come as a surprise to me.  The ONLY thing I've questioned is what seems to be a double standard of not allowing genital avatars but a genital feature is ok, and that was addressed by the moderators saying that people could bookmark a different page, even though when moving from the forums, there isn't a direct link that bypasses the homepage without someone accessing their profile link in their favorites everytime.

 

While I understand that this may not be a democracy, I've always been of the understanding that we're free to make suggestions and question decisions to gain further understanding....or did that door close when I wasn't looking?

 

We're all adults here,if you don't want to look at something,don't it's as simple as that.It's just another piece of skin anyway,so lets stop with the whole puritan act.

 

Whatever, Rick. At this point, you're just trying to be argumentative and combative and neither one of us is contributing anything useful to this thread with this line of dialogue. I've made my point, said my piece, and I'm not going to sit here and dance around and throw the attacks back and forth with you.

 

If that was pointed at me then... I dont need to get over it.. I just dont wanna have a pics of privets in front of me or poping up on my screen

its just the way I feel

 

edit: spelling